Talk:Ancient Indian Civilization

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I don't want to start an edit war so I think it's important to discuss this before action is taken, but I do not believe that the passage from the Drona Parva is accurate. In fact I do not believe it's in the Drona Parva. A passage not entirely dissimilar but lacking vimanas and sounding a little less nuclear, is found in the Mausala Parva

Indigo Child and I have discussed this in the past, and although we have not always been cordial, I think it's important to recognize that he was instrumental in discovering that there is a similar passage, lacking certain elements of the quote given in this article.

Perhaps it would be better to use the version found on sacred-texts.com or cite a reliable translation for the version given in this article?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread111071/pg1 Here's the thread where Indigo discovered the source passage.

Here's a quote from that page with the actual passage.

Here are the relavant passages: http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m16/m16001.htm

"When the next day came, Samva actually brought forth an iron bolt through which all the individuals in the race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas became consumed into ashes. Indeed, for the destruction of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas, Samva brought forth, through that curse, a fierce iron bolt that looked like a gigantic messenger of death. The fact was duly reported to the king. In great distress of mind, the king (Ugrasena) caused that iron bolt to be reduced into fine powder. Vaishampayana said: "While the Vrishnis and the Andhakas were thus endeavouring (to avoid the impending calamity), the embodied form of Time (death) every day wandered about their houses. He looked like a man of terrible and fierce aspect. Of bald head, he was black and of tawny complexion. Sometimes be was seen by the Vrishnis as he peered into their houses. The mighty bowmen among the Vrishnis shot hundreds and thousands of shafts at him, but none of these succeeded in piercing him, for he was none else than the Destroyer of all creatures. Day by day strong winds blew, and many were the evil omens that arose, awful and foreboding the destruction of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas. The streets swarmed with rats and mice. Earthen pots showed cracks or broke from no apparent cause. At night, the rats and mice ate away the hair and nails of slumbering men. Sarikas chirped, sitting within the houses of the Vrishnis. The noise made by those birds ceased not for even a short while by day or by night. The Sarashas were heard to imitate the hooting of the owl, and goats imitated the cries, O Bharata, of jackals. Many birds appeared, impelled by Death, that were pale of complexion but that had legs red of hue.

What purpose?

I read someones remark concerning the apparent biased reading of an account of a battle that took place in Ancient Indian History as set down in the Mahabrata,..the statement was i find very closed minded..tho it is good to be critical and scrutinize...it is another question however to assume...an account or translation has particular personal agenda. What i understand from reading the account..was that the information as set down basically,. made mention of Technologies in the form of weapons that were available to the combatants in the battle. Also was mentioned the effects the use of the weapons had on the Andhakas and Virishni race. The Account given describes a nuclear conflict.,.however the person who wrote down the story..was not a physicist as that i am aware of. Suffice it to say that ancient Technologies ..and abilities..far exceed...modern interpretations as being Less technologically advanced than that of the present time.

Hi. Personally I haven't read this article yet, but I want to suggest that you maybe post some correction ideas. Considering there is little activity lately on this article, the best idea may be to try and post some discussion about how to change the article, also feel free to change the article itself. Perhaps you may want to take a look at the Help page if you feel unsure on how to edit. Good luck. P.S. It is practical if discussion posts are signed, simply enter four tildes ~~~~ to get automatic signing. Optimist 17:18, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

The title does not look entirely precise

Looking briefly at the article now, it seems the topic is not actually "ancient Indian civilization" but rather something like "advanced technology described in Vedic scriptures". At some point it could maybe be good to add information on more aspects of ancient Indian civilization, or, alternatively, change the title (move article to new page). Just a thought. Optimist 17:30, 12 May 2007 (CDT)